Gchattin’ #Glee Season 2: Episode 15

March 10th, 2011 § 0 comments

Season 2 Episode 15: “Sexy”

Amber: Before we begin, can I just say….I called it.

Liz: Uh-oh. What’d you call?

Amber: Santana and Brittany! I TOTALLY called it like ten episodes ago!!

Liz: Lol. You did. And finally they had a “this is confusing. we should talk to somebody” moment. Although, Holly Holliday is questionable. Also, can I just let out one giant “GAAAAAAAAAH” for the crazy deepness of this episode. Ok, thank you.

Amber: Oh my, indeed! What an episode! Glee kept me wide-eyed the entire time tonight…where to start?

Liz: Where indeed…gosh….ok, so how about just the general topic…sex….first its alcohol and now its sex. I think Glee is trying to make some moves. And once again I have mixed feelings about it. Although I think they did a better job with it than alcohol. But I knew when they started with the celibacy club I was gonna be rolling my eyes…I mean, seriously, what was with the polyester number?

Amber: So, I actually thought that overall they did a pretty good job addressing sex in this episode in a realistic way. I did think it was weird though how the show ended somehow with half of the Glee club as now part of the celibacy club. I don’t get it.

Liz: Exactly. How did they all end up there? Especially when the only adult strongly advocating for celibacy is portrayed as “naive and frigid?” I appreciated the other messages (ie Dad talking with Kurt, Brittany and Santana hashing it out, Puck talking about consequences) but Glee clearly doesn’t know how to talk about celibacy as a real legitimate option. And frankly, I’m about to go off on a tangent, but when Holly asked Emma, “are you still in love with Will Schuester?” I wanted to throw my shoe at the TV. Damn you Will Schuester. Cuz in my head, Emma was making me wonder if she’d been abused as a child. Let’s get real. Not b/c she was in love with some damn annoying teacher. * Deep breath * Whew *

Amber: OK, Liz…calm down…keep your shoes on! Lol. I agree that the episode kind of made a joke of celibacy and didn’t really explore it as a viable option. BUT, I also think that abstinence a lot of the time is the emphasized birth control option for teenagers and that kids may not be encouraged to explore sex and their sexuality safely and openly, even though they are most likely thinking about sex and in many cases having sex. So I did appreciate that this episode acknowledged that while also highlighting that many of them weren’t necessarily given the tools to make the best decisions concerning their sex lives. And yeah, the situation with Emma is really interesting and you bringing up child abuse is deep…and likely…but I think may be TOO deep for Glee.

Liz: Yeah I’m not advocating that they start that storyline. Lol. But they’ve created a character with such major issues with sex (even after getting married) that when she sits down to “talk” about it, the ultimate question should not be “are you in love with Will?” Come on (why does everything revolve around him?). I agree though that they did a good job acknowledging how teens are thinking/talking/having sex and that they need to be educated about their choices. But I still have a problem with the treatment of celibacy as a joke, because half the battle is that sex is “cool” and if celibacy is treated as the most uncool, sad, naive, painful image…is the message really helping? (And I feel like I seem like I didn’t like anything – but I did! lol)

Amber: Ha! I hear you. So, I think that a real and meaningful conversation about celibacy is not just a conversation about sex. It’s also a conversation about choices and relationships. The big question when talking about celibacy is “why?” Why should one choose to be celibate? It’s an important question that is often missing from the conversation. With all of the images, hormones, etc, celibacy definitely isn’t always the easy choice, but I think it is still a choice that requires proper education and exploration–because I also think that one can choose to be celibate for the wrong reasons. So, yeah…I definitely think that celibacy as a real and viable option in one’s “sex life” should be a part of the conversation, but it still needs to be an ALL-encompassing, open, and honest conversation. Cuz celibacy can totally be empowering if you truly understand why you’ve made the choice, but it can be limiting and done in vain if you don’t. Also, choosing to have sex on your own terms can be just as empowering.

Liz: YES. Deep. I feel like you just said it all. And it’s so true about choices – I think back to my sex education – beginning with writing out the meanings for HIV and STDs in fourth grade – and wonder if it ever got past that? I can barely remember now, but it seemed like the biggest emphasis in high school was “don’t get pregnant. don’t get STDs” and although, that’s supposed to be a warning/passing on knowledge, it’s not very empowering. Which is why there was a lot I liked about Glee tonight. Kurt’s dad talking to Kurt open and honestly (although why Blaine has to be parent to Kurt’s parent I don’t understand). Santana and Brittany being honest about their own confusion. These were good conversations.

Amber: Totally. So let’s talk about Brittany and Santana. That was definitely loaded. Even though I kind of saw it coming, I was still a little surprised when it actually happened. I also totally have mixed feelings about the whole thing. On one hand, I’m glad that Brittany and Santana acknowledged that their relationship was deeper than they both wanted to admit…but on the other, I’m torn about the portrayal of Santana’s brokenness about it.

Liz: Yeah I feel you. I was glad when Santana expressed her “anger” (shouted a little yes!) but I wasn’t convinced that her anger was just about Brittany. I think Glee sometimes creates these characters that (if it were real life) are so deep the show doesn’t even know how to handle it.

Amber: Well, I thought it was a very real moment. Their relationship has a deep intimate component to it that neither of them really understood or talked about, not even to each other. And then finally, Santana has an honest moment with herself and eventually with Brittany when she reveals that she is afraid of the consequences of openly loving another woman. It’s so deep. My heart kind of broke for her, because that’s so real. Sigh. On the other hand though, I do feel uncomfortable with the way the writers have created her character–that is, using her promiscuity and aggression to hide this insecurity. It’s kind of problematic and kind of cliche at the same time. Make sense?

Liz: Yeah I think so…I’m trying to wrap my head around it because it is deep. I think it’s those reasons that left me feeling unsatisfied with the treatment of her character. It’s interesting to me that while Kurt faced/es coming out as a gay teen and is closed off from discussions/expressions of sex, Santana, on the other hand, has been portrayed as sleeping around with everyone (boys, other than Brittany).

Amber: Yeah. That’s some dangerous imagery, I think. The way the writers have chosen to deal with Santana and Kurt is really interesting. Kurt is (now) openly gay and comfortable with sexuality, but uncomfortable about sex, which may not necessarily have to do with his sexuality–they kind of leave that ambiguous. On the other hand, Santana is struggling with figuring out her sexuality and (it seems) is trying to repress her feelings for Brittany by sleeping around.

Liz: Which I just don’t know….

Amber: I think what may be the issue for me, is that they don’t give Santana much agency. Apparently, she’s acting out of fear and confusion but we’ve NEVER actually witnessed her try and work through it until now. I don’t know if it’s enough to have this insecurity be the root of all of her issues. It’s almost unfair. With Kurt, at least we were able to see him grow and process, we’ve also seen what life is like for him outside of school. I just wish that they would have made this new storyline a little more nuanced, rather than so black and white.

Liz: Yes. And we’ve spent so much time seeing her objectified and be the “mean girl” that it’s hard to just take it so straightforward – because it’s not as if her decisions up until this point (and they are her decisions) haven’t affected her, for better or worse. The fact that she has been so objectified suggests some real self-esteem issues. Plus, haven’t we had this storyline like only once before this? The writers haven’t seemed to be working too hard to develop this story. When we see her fight over Puck, is it just because of her unspoken feelings for Brittany? Do we see that in those scenes? Or does she merely continue to operate as the sexy, “sexed,” mean girl in those scenes? Who every once in awhile has feelings.

Amber: Exaaactly. But what really bothers me, is the writers’ choice to objectify her. Santana and Brittany making out (in bed) several episodes ago is something that I doubt we will see with Kurt’s character anytime soon. Why is it so easy to make a Santana a troubled promiscuous girl and keep Kurt–for all intents and purposes–innocent? It’s just really interesting (read: problematic) the way that they have constructed Santana’s character leading up to the moment of her “coming out” to Brittany, especially because the portrayal of lesbianism in mainstream media often is constructed to appeal to heterosexual male fantasies.

Liz: So deep! Pandora’s box, right there. That’s how I felt about the scene with Brittany and Santana, as well. Also, notice that Puck, a very promiscuous straight male, decides to be celibate because he’s realizing “there are consequences” but not because of any earth-shattering troubled moment. He’s not promiscuous because he’s troubled, he’s promiscuous because he’s….male?

Amber: DEEP….and I think the short answer is…YES.

Liz: Womp. What did you think of Brittany’s response?

Amber: I thought a really powerful line from Santana was “Who ever thought that being fluid could make you feel so stuck?” (Another big SIGH) I thought that Brittany’s willingness to be upfront with Santana about figuring out the intimacy between them was a good thing. Her decision to stay with Artie in the end, is her prerogative, and I think that Santana should give her room to figure that out (which is totally easier said than done). It really does suck for Santana though–homegirl is experiencing heartbreak and love and fear and confusion all at the same time–it’s like beyond ridiculous. Dayum! Also, I think Santana (who has always been an undercover favorite) has legit become one of my favorite characters on the show. She’s gon’ be alright and will totally grow to be a bad ass, strong, beautiful woman one day. * wipes away proud mama tears *

Liz: Awwww. She will be! Yeah, it makes you wonder what will happen next in the world of Glee drama.

Amber: I also thought that Kurt’s storyline was really interesting. Even though it was awkward that Blaine went to go find Kurt’s Dad to encourage him to talk to Kurt about sex, I thought he brought up a really interesting point–many LGBTQ teens may live with heterosexual parents who may not know how to or may feel uncomfortable about giving their kids the “sex talk.” Also, sex between same-sex loving individuals is not even a thought on the already problematic sex education agenda.

Liz: Yeah, that was an excellent point. And it offered one of the best scenes, I think. Because, really, Kurt’s dad is the only parent we really get to see. And last episode we complained about the lack of parental involvement in a serious issue (alcohol) and here they managed to make it happen. I wanted to hug his dad…he tries and succeeds so well!

Amber: Truth. It was definitely a good Glee moment. They seem to be having more of these lately. I can dig it.

Liz: Me too! Keep feeding into my obsession.

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